# Frederick Bates to Richard Bates, St. Louis, 9 November 1809 (on Lewis's death), with John Burke Treat to Bates, Washington, 31 October 1809, and Bates to Nicholas Boilvin, 2 November 1809

CITATION: Thomas Maitland Marshall, ed., The Life and Papers of Frederick Bates (St. Louis: Missouri Historical Society, 1926), vol. 2: Treat to Bates, 31 Oct. 1809, pp. 103-104; Bates to Boilvin, 2 Nov. 1809, p. 104; Bates to Coburn, 2 Nov. 1809, pp. 104-105; Bates to Richard Bates, 9 Nov. 1809, pp. 108-112 (with editor's footnotes 25-28).
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TRANSCRIPTION: OCR of the 1926 printed edition. NOTE: Marshall does NOT print Captain James House to Bates, Nashville, 28 Sept. 1809 (which Fisher 1962, p. 87, quotes from the Bates Papers, Missouri Historical Society); searched the OCR of both volumes for "House", "Stoddard", "derange", "patroon": absent.

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The Second Acting-Governorship. 103 

JOHN BURKE TREAT TO BATES 
My Dear Friend Washington City October 31st 1809 

This moment the Secretary at War has mentioned to 
me his having by this days Mail received an account of 
the extraordinary death of Governor Lewis : for which no 
one here undertakes to account for — & certainly the short 
acquaintance 1 had with him at St. Louis in June last wholly 
precludes my having any reason to offer for his committing 
an act so very extraordinary & unexpected. 

It is already ask'd here who will become Gov. of the 
Territory: Some say one, others another — but those 
acquainted with the present Secry. of the Territory point 
him out as the most suitable and proper person: he cer- 
tainly possessing more local knowledge of that part of the 
Country than perhaps any other person who might be 
selected as possessing talents adequate thereto — on the 
other hand, there are those who assert that if offered he 
would not accept it — as it might be necessary he should 
in that case relinquish the place of Commissioner, Register 
&c &c however of this you will undoubtedly be best able 
to determine — 

Here we are all tranquil and have not any foreign News 
more than the Gazettes of the day will probably commu- 
nicate to you — though — should any thing occur, which 
may be either interesting or amusing to you it shall by the 
earliest opportunity be communicated by [me] . 

TO NICHOLAS BOILVIN, SUB-AGENT OF INDIAN 
AFFAIRS, PRAIRIE DU CHIEN 

glR St. Louis Nov 2d. 1809 

Mr. Pope, the acting Governor of the territory of Illinois 
has complained to me that you have licensed persons to 

104 The Life and Papers of Frederick Bates. 

trade within his territory — and demanded that this prac- 
tice should be discontinued. It is a proceeding with which 
I have been totally unacquainted, and must confess myself 
altogether at a loss to conceive your object. 

The Orders of the Superintendent of Indian Affairs for 
Louisiana can have no operation East of the Mississippi — 
And no Licences in Gov Lewis' name ought to have been 
issued at Prairie du Chien or for any other part of the 
Illinois. — It appears to me that you ought to correspond 
on these subjects with Mr. Pope. Gov Lewis is no more. 
He died in Tennessee about 20 days ago.20 — 

TO JOHN COBURN 

SlR^ St. Louis Nov 2d. 1809. 

I have been somewhat too sanguine in my expectation of 
the popular address which we spoke of — Not, that the 
People would be better satisfied with any other appoint- 
ment; but a reluctance of which I have not been able to 
discover the true cause, has heretofore thrown a damp on 
my exertions. Until the news of Gov Lewis' death, the 
fear of incurring his displeasure was the ostensible mo- 
tive — & now, the impropriety of dictating to the President 
will serve as a pretext for their backwardness. I did not 
myself sign the Peto. as I conceived that the wishes of 
the People & not the Secy's wishes should be expressed 
in it. 

I send you the copy of a letter which I wrote last week 
to Mr. Pope. He has not answered me — The communica- 

20 Governor Lewis met his death on October 11, 1809. 

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tion of which I spoke, has not yet been made to Govern- 
ment — It will go by next week's mail. If the proper efforts 
are made at the city I shall not dispair of your success. 

TO JACQUES POKLIER21 AND JOHN BLEAKLEY,22 
MERCHANTS OF THE BRITISH MACK- 
INAC COMPANY 

Gentlemen, St. Louis Nov 3. 1809. —

[... pp. 105-108 omitted (letters not concerning Lewis) ...]

TO RICHARD BATES 

St. Louis Nov 9. 1809. 

You have heard no doubt, of the premature and tragical 
death of Gov : Lewis. Indeed I had no personal regard for 
him and a great deal of political contempt; Yet I cannot 
but lament, that after all his toils and dangers he should 
die in such a manner.25 

At the first, in Washington he made to me so many 
friendly assurances, that I then imagined our mutual 
friendship would plant itself on rocky foundations. But 
a very short acquaintance with the man was sufficient to 
undeceive me. He had been spoiled by the elegant praises 
of Mitchell26 & Barlow,27 and over whelmed by so many 
flattering caresses of the high & mighty, that, like an over- 

25 For the circumstances connected with the death of Lewis, see 
Coues, History of the Expedition under the Command of Lewis and Clark, 
I, 43 et seq. See also the Missouri Gazette, November 2, 1809. 

26 Probably Samuel Latham Mitchill, one of the best known American 
scientists of the period. 

27 Probably a reference to Joel Barlow's Columoiad. 

The Second Acting-Governorship. 109 

grown baby, he began to think that everybody about the 
House must regulate their conduct by his caprices. 

'De mortuis nil nisi bonum'28 is a good old maxim; but 
my character has been assailed, as respects our late Gov- 
ernor, and I owe to those I love some little account of my- 
self. 

I never saw, after his arrival in this country, anything 
in his conduct towards me, but alienation and unmerited 
distrust. I had acquired and shall retain a good portion 
of the public confidence, and he had not generosity of soul 
to forgive me for it. I was scarcely myself conscious of 
my good fortune; for the still voice of approbation with 
which I was favored by the People, was, as yet drowned 
in the clamours of my enemies. As soon as I was seen in 
conflict with my associates in business, my friends came 
forward with a generous and unexpected support. — T bore 
in silence the supercilious air of the Governor for a long 
time ; until, last summer he took it into his head to disavow 
certain statements which I had made, by his order from 
the Secretary's Office. This was too much — I waited on 
him, — told him my wrongs — that I could not bear to be 
treated in such a manner — that he had given me the 
orders, & as truth is always eloquent, the Public would 
believe it on my assurances. He told me to take my own 
course — I shall, Sir, said I, and I shall come, in future 
to the Executive Office when I have business at it. 

Some time after this, there was a ball in St. Louis, I 
attended early, and was seated in conversation with some 
Gentlemen when the Governor entered. He drew his chair 
close to mine — There was a pause in the conversation — 
T availed myself of it — arose and walked to the opposite 

28 Of the dead nothing but good. 

110 The Life and Papers of Frederick Bates. 

side of the room. The dances were now commencing. — 
He also rose — evidently in passion, retired into an adjoin- 
ing room and sent a servant for General Clark, who refused 
to ask me out as he foresaw that a Battle must have been 
the consequence of our meeting. He complained to the 
general that I had treated him with contempt & insult in 
the Ball-Room and that he could not suffer it to pass. He 
knew my resolutions not to speak to him except on business 
and he ought not to have thrust himself in my way. The 
thing did pass nevertheless for some weeks when General 
Clark waited on me for the purpose of inducing me to make 
some advances. I replied to him 'NO, the Governor has 
told me to take my own course and I shall step a high and 
a proud Path. He has injured me, and he must undo that 
injury or I shall succeed in fixing the stigma where it 
ought to rest. You come' added I 'as my friend, but I 
cannot separate you from G ov Lewis — You have trodden 
the Tips & the Downs of life with him and it appears to me 
that these proposals are made solely for his convenience.' 
At last, I had business at the Executive Office — He 
pressed me to be seated and made very handsome explana- 
tions. I told him that they sounded well; but that I could 
not accept them unless with the approbation of my friend 
Wm. C. Carr — He, with some other Gentlemen were then 
called in, & this particular misunderstanding adjusted to 
the entire satisfaction of Carr and myself. 

Oh Lewis, how from my Love, I pity thee ! 

1 Those who stand high, have many winds to shake them 

And if they fall, they dash themselves to pieces' 

I should not speak of these things now, but for the pur- 
pose of explaining what followed. Gov. Lewis, on his way 

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to Washington became insane. On the arrival of this un- 
happy news and before we heard of his death, an Honbie. 
Gentleman of this place, a Colleague of mine at the Land- 
Board, commenced a regular and systematic traduction of 
my character — He asserted in several respectable com- 
panies that the mental derangement of the Governor ought 
not to be imputed to his political miscarriages ; but rather 
to the barbarous conduct of the Secretary. That Mr Bates 
had been determined to tear down Gov Lewis, at all events, 
with the hope of supplanting him in the Executive Office' 
with a great deal of scandal equally false and malicious. 
The persons who listened most attentively to these accusa- 
tions, happened to be my very intimate friends Judge 
Coburn and Doct Farrar. 

I deliberated with myself 24 hours in what manner I 
ought to proceed. Clement B. Penrose was worthy of my 
resentment, as being nearly connected with the ' illustrious 
House of Wilkinson' as well as on many other accounts. 
But he has a Wife and family. A defiance ought not then, 
if it could be avoided, to come from me. The second day 
after I had heard these slanders I met him in public, at 
the Board of Commissioners, after we had adjourned. I 
charged him with the falsehoods which he had propagated 
in concise and angry terms. He denied them and explained 
'I have said that you were the enemy of Gov Lewis and 
would willingly be the Governor yourself.' 'You have 
gone farther than this Sir' said I 'and I will prove it upon 
you. I will not submit to your malicious impertinence Mr. 
Penrose — I will chastise you for it — for two years past, 
you have been in the habit of gossiping your scandals with 
respect to me, and I pledge my word of Honor, that if you 
ever again bark at my heels, I ivill spurn you like a Puppy 

112 The Life and Papers of Frederick Bates. 

from my Path' These reproaches made no impression upon 
him — he was only apprehensive of another kind of attack. 
He had denied the charge and I thought him too worthless 
for further notice. I satisfied myself with obtaining from 
Judge Coburn a Certificate of what 1 had alledged and 
with sending Aid Major McNair with a letter to Mr. Pen- 
rose, expressive of my hearty and everlasting Contempt 
for him. His reply to the Major was, that he would have 
me indicted for an Assault. 

Eichard, this is a strange world, in which we live! I 
had thought that my habits were pacific; yet I have had 
acrimonious differences with almost every person with 
whom I have been associated in public business. I have 
called myself to a very rigid account on this head, and 
before God, I cannot acknowledge that I have been blamable 
in any one instance. My passions blind me I suppose. 

It is certain, nevertheless, that I float on a flowing tide 
of popular favor, without a diminution of credit that I 
know of at the City. 9/10ths of the People are ready to 
push me into the government, as much I presume, against 
the determinations of the President as contrary to my own 
inclinations. 

The Recorder's Office united with the Secretaryship are 
better, safer, more permanent, more congenial with my 
habits, and offer me duties with the discharge of which I 
am intimately familiar. In the Government, I might have 
a three years' greatness and sink into oblivion. I could 
not hope to ' escape from the world 's great snare uncaught. '
