VE ATE) eh ve Fags NEW-YORK. TUESDAY, OCTOBER 31. 1871. ———v NO QRZ A re RATTLE WITH THE RING. D THE FIELD. BEA A Ua Se a di A ramor of the withdrawal of Mr. lweed from the Senatorial contest in the Ivih District, and his Br aation of te Prosidency of the Bosrt of Public Works, wae sot affont late yosterday afternoon, but the reported action of Mr. Tweed Was &0 jmprobable that fow bolleved that there was any foundation for the story. 1t was well canvassed among politicians last night, and those Who did not scout the idea altogether, believed that the rumor had beon started Ly some agent of the Rink to cover other and equally startling movements in contemplation. Morgan Jone? was Mr. Tweed's ru mored successor in the Senatorial contest, but at a late poar last night MT. Jones had heard nothing authoritative eoneerning the matter, and eaid that he did not believe there was any truth in it, and if 1t proved to be correct De should consult with his friends before placing himself fn tho fleld as Mr. Twoed’s substitute. A reporter who visited the Oriental Club-House had the following conversation with Michael J. Shandley Reporter—Mr. Shandloy, have you scen that repo this eveoing's Jaze about Mr. Tweed's ty H iB ghandley—I have. Reporter—L3 it true t 0 resigne wR bomiod tbat ho will not run for BenAtor. the Beard of ghandley—You may deny it authoritatively. Bld hf am been I, ween told m6 that no such thought had oe] gh gh showed get the paper himself, and said, Look here, 806 Bi on he Did you ever sec euch a porter—Then Mr. ead will not res either his office at the Board of Works or his ARTY shandler—No, he wen't; quite the reverse. He will be mote dele mued to ran than before, and will be re true by an increased pao, in consequence of the I WATCHING FOR INGERSOLL. FOUR DEPUTY SHERIFFS LYING IN WAIT TO AR REST HIM—WHAT MR. TWEED THINKS OF HI3 RETURN, Deputy Sheriff Jarvis assigned four of his officers yesterday to search for Mr. Ingersoll on the trains arriving fo this city from the East, but they were pot successful in finding him. As soon as he arrives he 48 to be srrested, and none of the consideration which was shown Mr. Tweed is to be used toward hus less fa yored co-defendant. Mr. Jarvis, as head of the or der of Arrest Department, said yesterday that Mr. In gersoll would bo treated like amy ordinary prisoner; that be would be wind Ms. I could be found, and be taken immediately to the 8herifl’s office, where bo will be required to furnish bail or accept 0 alternative—Ludlowst. Jail. Although his asso dates profess the most unbounded faith in Mr. Inger wil’s intention to return to the city, there arc not want fog those who assume that ho has fled and intends to remain away. Mr. Tweed is not of the latter class. In eonversstion with a TRIDUNE reporter, yesterday, he mid «Of eonrse Ingeraoll’s coming back. His interests Bere are too heavy to admit of his running away. I know that he wanted to go away on business some time 8g, and that he delayed werely to give these people an opportunity to arrest him, and at last I suppose Lis Pusinees wos preasing and he had to attend to it. Bat »e’ll be back.” Mr. Tweed was thea asked if, in the event of Mr. In. gersoll failing to return, he (Tweed) would be held re sponsible for the whole amount of money involved ia the suit, shoud judgment he given fer the people. “Weil,” sail Mr. Tweed, “I guess they're trying tc boid 16 rezpausrible for all of it, anyhow; and thin he sd, but on any of theso legal points I had rattler you sid my counacl.” “His flight woul? have a bad moral effect on the case.’ “Weil, yes, I supposo 80; but tien he isn't going tc ft.” Fotwithstanding Mi, Tweed’s confilence in Ingersoll’s yectitude, there is a widespread doubt of his appearance tm New-York 1a time for trial. WHIFPE IS WOODWARD? DP HE IN CANADA OR CHICAGO {—WIIAT IS SATD AT XORWALK—IFRAUDULENT NATURE OF HIS CONVETANCES. Elbert A. Woodward is still absent from Kerwalk, andl no cae ventures to predict when he will return. A week wo last Scturday he inforwed one or two of his busiices associates that he was going to Chicago in the capacity of President of the Fairfield County Fue Insarance Company, to adjust some losses fweurred by the dro. The following Monday he took an eactwerd boun i train, and the next day his wife left Rorwaik, as she stated, to join bim in New-York. He Bad at this time, however, ceased to be President of the Dsurauce Company, baving transferred all his stock uneurting to about $10,000, a8 the books of the corpora tion show, and although his resiynation has not Leen re ecived by the Sceretary, his position is of course vacant. Tue statement tha: he is now ensconced in the office of The New-Haoen Register 1s utterly unfounded, and Elvert A. Weodward 13 hardly likely to be caught at the present time within the procinets of Connecticut. His only con pection with journalism is a part-ownership of a small sheet issued in Norwalk, which was established to sup port his nomination for some State oillce about twelve months ago. A very general impression prevaiis that ho has gone to Canada, and the fact of his taking an East ward train is stroug corroborative proof. It is also believed that Le hus fesued powers-of-attorney to Lis lawyer, W. R. Binith, and since THE TRIBUNE'S exposure tast Thursday the Town Clerk's oflice aud the Rocord books have been watched with interest. A TRIBUNE reporter whe went to Norwalk yesterday visited the manufactory of Jolin D. Beatty Bros., sit sated midway between South Norwalk and Norwalk Bridge. J. P. Beatty was again absent, but the reporter faw Samuel Beatty, another member of the firm, who thowed no reluctance $0 cqnverse. “Mr. Woodward has nof returned home yet, has het” “Xo, Bir.” “When do you expeet him” “I could not say.” “Do you expeet him at allt” “Certaluly we do.” “Ihave been fuformed that be has communicated with So member of your firm during his absence. May I ask what ressonsiyou have for believing he will return 1” We believe he will return, because Mr. Tweed says emphatically, and he was more intimate with Wood ward than anybody else. Beside, all the hue and cry that has Leen raisedamounts to nothing, Mr. Woodward #ono to Chicago on business.” "Bis departure was very sudden.” Fotatall. Two or three days before leaving he com Bunicated his intention to me, but sald he wavered Whether ho should go after all.” I emppose you saw what THE TRTBUNE sald of the inners Yea hot Fodward's property to John I. Beatty 1” Was it correct 1” Neryal, except that this firm fs not a branch of the Wood ork house of Vanderhoef Beartf, and that Mr. oo Yad is only connected with the latter and not of ‘We were never about to fail, and never needed a Woodward's money to revive us.” dor i Beatty, one more question. Are yon aware that, or law of Connecticut, transfers made in the man those release mort of Woodward's were are frandential and lahie to attachment hat 18 4 point of Jaw, Sir.” FR ND to the General Statute Boak of Connec Fractal, elon of 1786, Bection I. of an act a That ah nt Convey ances, was found to read as follows to nude glen aud deceitful conveyaness of lands or tenements, or or of any goods or chatiels, avd all bonds, suits, 3) slic, avd contracts made with intent to avoid any debt, pm Le utterly veld, as against those Jorn only, Pdearored to tart ons, Adsainatestory, ot assigns, whose debi or duty is Fetes, whe. a next conenited with an audrhey ef expe Boglich orwed him that ft was a principle of old SVL Jaw, vail in ail the ‘ater, that, such those uals y Woodwa Weel over lam void. “Such eeds as those Ny which are v p Connon there 1s Dot a lawyer or a Judge in tho State of The Woodward's 1. would account them valid.” A L] autini Bavecuorted, and look melancholy enough. Th Pelnge n inte scrupulous silence, and pr— £54 mistress wit 14 questions as to whey their master Dowever Rg ig There is good reason to be hilg hilt, Mra. Woodward and hor youngest terday, om ale away with her, reached iome yes Wi sein reappear. be inferred that Woodward oth reporter ey said Mayor Ely of Bouth Norwalk We are are you ph in New-York wo oh RS oudent ré that the transfers Itls y you not attach Woodward's ofa understood that there is nearly a quartor Withous phe rth still intoet, which igi be When onee n trans terminable litigation that followa Soumtantly talked of go made, If the proofs which are thing dove. exist, we should lke to ece soc Nasaryp SBMOM, Be cretary of the Fairfield County Fire Bute lo Cuiggueny, stated that Mr. ‘Woodward bad adjust losses without comsulting him, and that up to three days ago, the date of their Iatest advices from thelr Chicago accots, Mr. Woodward had not been seen or heard of.’ To the Editor of The Tribune. Sir: The name of the great thisf Wood ward is ELBIRT A., and not Elbert, as constantly printed. I trust there will be no mistake in the indictment. ONE WHO KNOWS THE BIGNATURE. New-York, Oct. 30, 1871. CHARLES OCONOR EATYLODES 11LHE 71 Hie RET OF GEORGE TICKNOR CURTI3 TECHNICAL POINTS OF NO CONSEQUENCE GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY? A long communication from Geo. Tieknor Curtis (the points of which were printed in yosterday's TRIBUNE), containing numerous quibbling objections to the recent action of Messrs. O’Conor and Tilden agaluet Tweed, has elicited from Mr. O'Conor the following vigorous response: NEW-YORK, Monday, Oct. 80, 1871. To BAMUEL J. TILDEN, esq. DEAR BIR: Agreeably to ou Toquest, I have perused the opinion of Mr. Geolge icknor Cortis, published this morning, and proceed to give you my views apn it. The men who are engaged in an nuloly effort to flll our next Legislature with rogues, must of course find it their interest at this time to pernlex the public mind with frrelevant topics. IHow far any Jogi Jrocengiug which may be resorted to by any ono is likely to be an efficient instrument of justice, is not new a material inquiry. The conflicting notions of lawyers on any branch of such a subject are not suseop tiblo of a eatisfactory solution except in the Conrts; and their views cannot soon be cffoctually expressed, So it would certaluly seem the course of wisdom on the part of our fellow-citizens to leave for future invegtizution all issues on mere poinis of practice, euch as ny honored friond Mr. Curtis has raised. Neither he himself nor the gentleman who has retained him and sought his advico seems to entertain any doubt that officiai malversation and fraud npon the public have ocenrred, 5 They both profess to belicve that actual and cflicient prozecutions should be pursued vigorously and ef feetually, and they are apparently acting on that belief. If they really intend to prosecute their liwaults, and ean succeed in recovering the moneys abstracted, I shall be greatly rejoiced, That the proceedings which 1 have ad vised should be found unnecessary would be a result most grateful to me. Any mere technical peint is not a proper subject of inquiry among our honest eit zens at this time; neither is the issue of fact sought to be raised by the Corporation Counsel. No chargs los been made against him, It fe the conrse of a deoperate legal gamster to “abuse the plaintiffs attorner.'” ‘the counsel for the people have not resorted to it. ‘The charge of collusion ia made against the excocntive officer who directed these city and county suits to be brought, not against the attorney, who was obliged tobrisg then when so ordered. TWEED'S GUILT THE ONLY QUESTION. The only question now properly before the nublic is this: Are the accused individuals guiltv 1 That is a mere question of fact, No small legal quilitles aft ct the inquiry. If these quibbles ean furnish the offenders a loop-hole through which to escape justice, and by which they may run off and in some foreign clime enjoy their plunder, s0 much the more Jacasgnt for themselves and perhaps profitable for thefr helpers. But the question now before the Pune is whether tlieae men are guilty, and, if so, whether they shall be permitted to go into the Legislature and continue their carcer of fruad and plunder, Ina word, then, the gentlemen who are engaged in proscenting these Cliy and County suits have but one thing to do. No one nuopeaches their persoaal acts, or condemns their personal or oflicial action, If they believe the accused gullty, let them go on with their suits and make the best of thew. If they bave no ade quate proofs of that guilt, surely they oust to ennounce that facet, and as far as in their power disabn=e the public mind from existing inculpatory im pressions. Tuey would thereby relieve these viriious prosecuted and persecuted officials from at least some part of the namerited odium with which they are now alinogt universally reearvded. If this recponse to the statement of the Corporailoa Counsel and his adviser should cud here, it might be thought that 1 had found something novel, staridieg, and ot easy {o ano wer ia My, Curds's published views, Buch is not the tact, THE CAVILS GF A MALFFACTOR. The difficulties suggested by him as standing in the way of justice belong to the mazizine of merely teehni cal “objections to method or procedure. They relate merely to matters of form. Though he does not use them for that purpose, every lawrer knows that they belong to thie class of ohjeotions which are the invavialle resord of swindlers who cannot defend on the wets, To wieng plaintiff is named the wrong officer cou ets the prosccution it is brought in the wrong place; there ie this, that, or fhe oiler flaw or delet ia (he iudicament or the complaint, Thess dee fonses are as well known and hackneyed 28 the month of tre enc) employed by the alibi, Gener liv these cavils weer a from ihe mudctactor, ft is not often that some other public cfdeer rushes into the méiée, and thruste then into the face of the peoplc’s prosecuting agent; but in such times as the prescut such an occurrence should nol ex cite surprise. The ue tions propounded to i associate by the Caor poration Counsel realiy have not mi h relevancy to tho action commenced hy the Attoincy-Geneaal against inveed and Lis coafederaien. Of course tho #s3ociate counsel's unswer is, in a considerable degree, agide (ron the punt. TIIE RIGHT OF THE STATE TO CORRECT ABUSIS, Though Le Las not given us any evidence of his knowl edge on the subjecty the associate is not unaware that the State, as purene patria, has the right and the power to correct by action at law or in equity anvusos of cor porate and cil ial authority, and muy excercise that rigut in peenmiary matters, though the money ab stracted or mic anpled should belong to a mnuicipal cor poration. Surely the Jearned ascocinte knows that every county, city, town, and village corporate or unincorporated, is but a civil divikion of the State, and is merely a part of one whole, Surely he knows that, aside from mere forms of administration and procedur?, all the money of every enc ¢ivil divis jon is but a part of tho common treasure of the State, Though raised by local contribution or taxation, and intended for some local uae, it is always raised by au thority of the supreme power; it actually belongs to the gupreme power, and it is applicable as the supreme power may direct. All these things, I admit, do not prove that the par ticular kind of remedy adopted for the rec ovory ot tho $6,300,000 raised on bonds to supply the Ingersoll, Garvey, Woodward, and Tweed swindle, onght, as n mere matter of practice, to be sued for by the 8tate, or that, in point of sirici regul.rity, it can be recovered in the nate of the “tae. Whether it can be 80 recovered, or muat he sued for in the name of the County of New York or ita Bupervisors, 18 just ome of these petty little practical points that belong much more to the attorney’s school of manipulation than to the great fleld of legal science. Yet tho point did, of ¢ourse, re guire the attention of the Attormey-General’s assistants, t was, of course, foreseen by thew; for they knew that the rogue is ever ready to employ some exception drawn from such technicalities “to entangle justice In the net of form.” Perhaps all of us huve united in an error on this little technical poiut. But I take occarion to say that wo have had adequate meuns and opporiinitics of understanding it; wo are all firmly convinced that it will present no obstacle to success in the peopie’s action. I am, Dear Sir. with great respect, yours truly, CH. O'CONOR. ee PTET YY APART TAIIZINTY AAAI VY INDICTMENTS FOUND AGAINST HAGGERTY AND BAULCH FOR BURGLARY AND LARCENY. The Grand Jury presented indictments yes terday againet Edwin M. Haggerty and Charles Baulely the alleged voucher thieves, charging them with larceny and with burglary in the third degree. Tbe flrst count in the indictment for larceny is as follows: outy and County of New-York, ss.: The jurors of the Jeopie of the Btate of New-York, in and for tho body of he iy and Gouwty of New-York, upon their oath ore sent That Edwin Haggerty, late of the Sixth Ward of the City of New-York, iu the County of New-York aforesaid, laborer, and Charles Baulch, late of the same Foe, on the 10th day of September, in the ycur of our rd 1871, at the ward, city and county aforesald, with force and arms, ono paper, bill, voucker, document and record, dated the 12t of August, 1870, of one Goorge 8, Miller, for carpenters’ work im the new Court-louse for the Liyment of $46,343 46; ove other paper, hill, voucher, document, and record dated the 13th or A of August in the year last aforesaid, of ouo A. J. Garvey, for repairs to county buildings and ofiices for the off $67,068 89; one other paper, bill, voucher, docmment and record dated the 15th day of June in the year aforesaid of one C. D. Boilur Co., for fitting vf various armories end drill-roows for the paysgent of $37,002 17: one other paper, bil, voucher, ocument, and record, dated the 24th day of Juns in the year aforesaid, of one J. A. Bmith, for carpets, shades, &c., for various armories and drill-rooms for tie pay ment of 86,441 42; more purticuiar degeriplion of #nid Joan, bills, vonchers, documents, and records are to the rors aforesaid unknown, and the same then and there being of great value, to wit, of the value inthe aggrogule of $116,925 92, which suid papers, billa, vonchers, docu ments. aud records were then and there fled and do posited in a certain Phbiis office, to wit, lu the Controller's office of tue City of New-York, of the Soda, chattels, and Dersulal jofieity of the Javor, Aldermen, and Ceim monalty ef tho City of New-York, then ays thero beiwg found feleniourly, did stenl, take, and carry away aguinet tlw form of the statute in wach ease wade wud Provided, aiid against the peace of the people of the Btute cf New-York and thélr digmty. There are two additional counts chorging the same ofionse, the only difference being that the vouchers are chased in the first as the property of tho ety, fn tho second 98 tho preperty of the county, aud in the thivd a4 the personal property of Controller Counolly, Ths other indictment, aso, has threo counts each, chai lng Hur glary in the third degree, ond walking 1:0 sawe diatjue tious as to the ownership of tho vouckors, A SUIT AGAINST nM ror $3,450—=10W IT 18° KEGARDED. Another suit has been bern in the Hupieiao Court to recover plleged lawl ues ire Wo piauderers A THIIFF'B NAME. A WORD IN RFASON. THE VOUCHER ROBBERY. oAnveryd DYN of the city treasury—this timo against Garvey, the wealthy plasterer. Bingalarly enough, Garvey in velvet was never troukled by importunate creditors for tie paltry theusands which he owed them, and could aili:d to throw away; but Garvey, seen afar off in a pros pootive suit of striped stufl, is harassed by lawsuits and condemnations. The present suit by Frederick J. Shaw and Henry B. Venn 18 brought to recover over $3,000 fer painiing done fo the Tax Commissioners’ office, There are not wanting those who see in the present action a “blind” to shield Garvey froin disgrace, and who Lint in pretty plain terms that the suit is improvised to prove that there was some basis for Garvey's monstrous bills against tho county. Appended is the aMdavit of Henry B. Veun, one of the plaintiffs: (ity and County of New-Vork, es. Henry B, Venn, being dnly sworn, says be is one of the plaintiffs above named, who at the times hereinafier mentioned were and now are partiers, doing business in the City of New-York under the firm-name of Shaw Venn; that at various times between Jan. 12, 1070, and March 24, 1071, at the special instance and request of the defendant, they perforaed certain work and for pidied ocrtzin materlals at said cy jp painting the oligos, of the Tax Commissioners and Regier] for which endaiit pps] to pay what the seme should he reason. ot worth, That the same were reasonably worth the sam of $3.46) 30, and said defendant pro: tied to pay the saine therefor, but had wk oll fal)d 80 to do, and is now judebted to these plaintids therefor, in said saw, from March 28, 1870. Deponent further saith that during the last menth he has made diligent e"orts to ascertain the whereabou's of the defendant i] inquiricg at hia residence, place of busiuees, and also of his brother and friends. and that be has been noable to find out anything in relation to dda whereabouts or address, any more than that esid defendant had gone away to somo un known localite, his relatives and fricods professing to be Ignorant of all knowledge of the matter. Defendant fuit'ier saith that it has reeently bean stown by the officiel records of the City and County of New-York that ssid defendant has for several years past been engaged in a fraola lert conspiracy with certain public officials of said Citr and County, and that in pursusnos thereof he hus received from the Treasary of the Coiuty of New-York, with the connivance and consent of xaid officials, Uetween May 5, 1870, and June 3, 1670, tie sum of %471,806 07, un ler ths false apd frandolent pretense that that amount was doe to him for J Seterien jertoraed upon the new Coart-1louse, al bourh in fact the total value of all euch plastering 1id vot exceed a tenth part of said sum. That it also Shpears {rom said reconls that this is but one of a nrmher of similar frandulent transactions to which said Gurve; has been tugged, and through which he bas fraudalently received immense amounts of pub lic money; that the facts in regard to said fraululeat traveactions have only recently heen made public, and thet shortly after their Being so mae public stops were taken towar| aries the defendant and other gly parties, aud toward recovering the public fands they bad improp eily obtained, and that seve.sl actions for that Foe are now impen ing. That immediately a‘t